Ballroom Conversations

Pro/Am Announcement Offensive ?

Dance Forums - Wed, 08/08/2012 - 9:28pm
In the last few comps I attended when the prize was distributed the organizer called out the winners by the pro name but then did not mention the student name.

It's like this:

'First Place John Smith and student'

I mean isn't the student the one actually winning the comp ?

I just thought it makes more sense to say:

'First Place Jane Jane and teacher'

Of course the names are not real but you get the gist.

I don't dance Pro/Am and I find it offensive to leave the student name out completely. I just feel like it is discounting the student's effort.

In Amateur they always say BOTH person name.

Is this the norm ?

New England Dancesport Championships

Dance Forums - Wed, 08/08/2012 - 8:57pm
Who else is going? It'll probably be the first competition of the academic year for my Smooth and Rhythm partners and me, probably Gold/Novice Smooth and hopefully Prechamp/Champ Rhythm if my partners and I can get our butts into gear!

Is it too late for me?

Dance Forums - Wed, 08/08/2012 - 3:30pm
I am a professional singer and I have been instructed to take tap, ballet and jazz class (I also have a mad passion for swing/lindyhop!)

I am 22 years old and since I do theatre, it is hard to fit me in since I am not quite that triple threat. I am afraid that it may be too late for me to become an adequate dancer, and I do not want my career to suffer because of it.

Does anyone have any advice? Of course I am going to take lessons and give my all, I am just afraid that I should have done this back when I was three.

Teaching Musicality

Dance Forums - Wed, 08/08/2012 - 1:28pm
Musicality in dance is one of my strong interests, since I see so many leaders evidently having little awareness of it. I've been told by some partners that I have a good sense of it. (Just reporting the facts). Although I know how I dance, I have no sense of how other leaders dance to the music, except for what I can see. Many times it doesn't look good, when I see leaders dance straight through obvious pauses and even fail to recognize the end of the music.

Of course, you can't teach musicality if you can't say what it is. I'd love to learn the experiences and thoughts of various followers. I just wanted to write out my thoughts about how I do it. My way is not the right way, it's just mine. I'd like to know how other leaders compose their dance, if they do – maybe they don't.

I attribute my understanding of musicality to my early education in playing music, and to my experience as a folk dancer, where every dance is choreographed to fit to the music.

I learned to play music in the 4th grade and played for several years. My music education is rudimentary, but it gave me a clear understanding of the structure of music, especially simpler music such as marches, school fight songs and dance music. As a dance teacher I have observed that many people have no such understanding. Even music appreciation courses may not explain how music has A and B parts that are repeated alternately and have 1st and 2nd endings. I've given classes a few times on how music is structured, playing a familiar tune and showing how it relates to the sheet music. Sometimes this has been an eye-opener for people.

However, many dancers know as much or more about music than I do, but they may not have an idea of how to use that knowledge in creating a dance. I call it instant choreography; I think in ballroom dancing it's called building amalgamations.

In my late teens and early 20's I was an avid folk dancer. In that realm every dance has a specific choreography and specific recording that goes with it. When folk dancers hear the first few beats of a tune, they instantly know what the dance is and recall the sequence. Something like Country Western, I think. The choreography is usually not complicated at all. A typical one would be a simple 8-bar sequence repeated 2 or 4 times for the A part. When the music changes to the B part, they do a different sequence until the A part is played again. For me, this gives an ingrained concept of dancing a particular theme for a portion of the music, then changing it to something else when the music changes. In tango I'm certainly not doing memorized sequences and repeating them, but I am making an effort to fit my instant choreography, in some way, to the emotion and structure of the music that I am hearing. I realize some principles of visual design are also found in folk choreography: repetition, variation, contrast.

To summarize, I have an understanding of the structure of dance music, and I have experience in knowing how to create choreographic structure that, in some way, coincides with the musical structure. I also want the emotion of the dance to suit the emotion of the music. The reason I do all of this is, partly, it's just how I dance, but I also want to give my partner a concept of what my intention is, so she can have a better idea of what we're doing. I think it allows her to be more comfortable, and it just creates a more interesting and enjoyable dance for both of us.

When amalgamations are taught in ballroom dancing, what do they teach?
Excluding the idea of becoming a folk dancer for a few years, how can choreographic ideas be taught?
Would teaching choreographic ideas be useful?

(Sorry for the long post).

[Korean video] funny dance

Dance Forums - Wed, 08/08/2012 - 3:55am

We can get over heavy workload and stress by dancing.

This is a sort of ads, but a creative idea.

The woman in this video is an awesome dancer..!

Friends...stupid question from a "two year old"...

Dance Forums - Wed, 08/08/2012 - 2:26am
How do you deal with friends leaving your life? What do you do to make the pain go away?

USDC... who's going?

Dance Forums - Tue, 08/07/2012 - 9:25pm
I've never done this comp before... super excited about this one. For those who have gone before... advice? For those who are going this time... how are the preparations going?

Both on Tonight at 9 PM

Dance Forums - Tue, 08/07/2012 - 6:11pm
Tonight on HGTV All Stars Design Star show, the designers are redoing two rooms in the home of Jonathan Roberts & Anna Trebunskaya.

This is on at the same time as Oxygen's new dance show. "Join Travis Wall and his lifelong friends and roommates: Teddy Forance, Nick Lazzarini and Kyle Robinson in their quest to launch their own dance company, Shaping Sound."

New Comp in Massachusetts

Dance Forums - Tue, 08/07/2012 - 5:56pm
NEDSC - National Qualifying Event
September 28, 29 and 30 2012


Dance Forums - Tue, 08/07/2012 - 7:07am
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Paso Promenade Walks

Dance Forums - Mon, 08/06/2012 - 7:51pm
I was told in Paso to have no turn out when feet are together, to step forward with no turn out, but to turn out the back foot during walks, and let it slide along the inside edge of the toe.

In promenade walks then, since your feet are diagonal, will your back foot slide inside edge on one foot, and outside edge on the other, or should you turn out the back leg to stay inside edge, and then turn it back in to step straight?

little masterpiece (vals argentino)

Dance Forums - Mon, 08/06/2012 - 3:09pm

Logical Fallacy

Dance Forums - Mon, 08/06/2012 - 10:57am
since some threads can get pretty emotive..lets do it for for fun..propose an argument based on a logical fallacy

and then you have to counter it with another logical fallacy....

porteños among themselves

Dance Forums - Mon, 08/06/2012 - 6:22am
Recently found this vid: Milonga "De Querusa" in August.
De Querusa takes places on Thursday 19-23h, Colombres 767, BsAs

Who knows of the circumstances?

Dance Forums - Sun, 08/05/2012 - 10:09am
Does anybody know for what purpose this clip was recorded for.

Was it part of a movie, simply the overture of movie, a concert, a release party, a radio/TV broadcast?

Latin: Shoulder coming Forward

Dance Forums - Sat, 08/04/2012 - 11:02am
In promenade position, standard or latin, we're often told not to let the man's right / lady's left shoulder to come forward, and have the elbow pass behind it. This keeps a strong frame, etc., etc.

Lately, I've noticed top latin dancers on Youtube not following this piece of advice I was given, in certain circumstances. Franco formica in Paso, and Slavik in Jive.

So I'd like to know, when is it okay it do this, when is it not okay, and when is it not important / difference of opinion?

salsa forums

Dance Forums - Fri, 08/03/2012 - 11:51pm
Sorry, but the "new " format is nowhere as good as the previous one ( it looks "washed out ". Its also difficult log onto , and, trying to read replies to responses, doesnt have the clarity of the previous format .:(

Silver Leader in the DC area Looking for Partner

Dance Forums - Fri, 08/03/2012 - 5:00pm
PM for details.

Need a recommendation in Portland/Sandy, OR

Dance Forums - Fri, 08/03/2012 - 4:20pm
Dancing friends, can anyone recommend a ballroom studio in the Portland/Sandy, OR area? I have some students moving there and want to help them find a new dance home. Thanks!

PS: Yes, I know you can google it. I'm looking for a personal recommendation.

The economy vs. your dancing

Dance Forums - Fri, 08/03/2012 - 4:14pm
Has the economy affected your dancing participation in the past few years? I have found that I am now much more selective with my choices of competition venues, costumes and fees. I am rather shocked at the increasing prices in costumes, the airline/hotel costs, and ticket prices, not to mention lessons. Are these prices increasing due to inflation, vendors trying to stay afloat, or a combination of both?

I am wondering when the "tilt" button will hit in regards to price. What would it take for you, as a dancer, to finally reign in your dancing or just call it quits?

For me, it would be the airline prices.

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